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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Russ Lay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colleen--agree. I like how Kitty Hawk hid the Wal-Mart complex and I also like the new Food Lion center in Nags Head as it sits perpendicular to the main road. I have never been a huge fan of the Belk Center. Likewise, for some reason, the Market Place in Southern Shores is equally unobtrusive. The hospital blends well with the mall, although I would prefer the Seamark to the vacancy now present. Seamark carried all the same alternative foods Harris-Teeter now offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colleen&#8211;agree. I like how Kitty Hawk hid the Wal-Mart complex and I also like the new Food Lion center in Nags Head as it sits perpendicular to the main road. I have never been a huge fan of the Belk Center. Likewise, for some reason, the Market Place in Southern Shores is equally unobtrusive. The hospital blends well with the mall, although I would prefer the Seamark to the vacancy now present. Seamark carried all the same alternative foods Harris-Teeter now offers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Russ Lay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again--my point exactly. The response thus far is what I expected. I am here for my own reasons and I am not sure they need to dovetail with yours or others. One of the reasons we have media alternatives is to air these type of differences of opinion.

What first prompted this article was not just the arrogance of those in Raleigh telling folks in Hatteras to &quot;tough it out&quot; and deal with the environmental movement. Not being defensive, but my article had no problem with locals determining our fate; it had to do with those who don&#039;t reside here weighing in. That point has been missed by many.

Secondly, you moved here. So I ask, why did &quot;YOU&quot; move here, and why do you think you&#039;re the last one? If you came here from outside, you were one extra person, one extra house, and one extra person utilizing one extra group of resources...water, roads, septic. Where did you draw the line? Should the native population somehow have prevented you from arriving? Because surely, if you thought the area a paradise, so did several thousand others. 

And so you came. Many here call it the &quot;close the bridge behind me&quot; syndrome. As an observer, I sit and watch this everyday.

In 2009, I watched a prominent member of one local planning board rail on and on about big box stores at a public meeting. The following Monday, there she was in line at Wal-Mart in front of me, basket full of clothes for her grand kids.

As I&#039;ve mentioned already, I&#039;ve seen one, now two comments from readers saying I am wrong about this development. As I pointed out, one I saw in Home Depot, and now the other is one who posted, in public, on Facebook how much they enjoyed Captain George&#039;s the first week they opened. If CG&#039;s is not the epitome of huge, chain, frozen, corporate food, I&#039;m at a loss for what is. Others who have commented here took jobs, making money working on mansions, soliciting government bids, etc. It&#039;s a small town, and if there is one thing that puzzles me, it&#039;s the contradictions that are apparent every day from those who decry development yet make their living from it. Ditto for those who decry runaway taxes yet bid for government jobs.  

Nowhere in this article did I say build a million homes, or a 100 story hotel, or build a million Wings. I said I like being able to buy a PC at Wal-Mart, some good food at Harris-Teeter (and yes, I miss Seamark terribly), or a webcam (which I bought Monday) at Staples. 

But one more time, each person who moved here from elsewhere to enjoy the &quot;undeveloped nature&quot; of the area added to the eventual over development. The story is the same in Sanibel and most of Florida, Napa Valley, even the New Zealand coast. 

If the vast majority of locals don&#039;t want this much commercial development (and I am not speaking of rental homes), then they would boycott the stores. Instead, the chains are full of locals and the small businesses eventually close or adapt. Why is that? 

My guess is that if I&#039;ve &quot;lost the readers on this one,&quot; then the folks I see in line at Food Lion, dining at Outback, or hauling generators out of Home Depot who live here simply don&#039;t read this web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again&#8211;my point exactly. The response thus far is what I expected. I am here for my own reasons and I am not sure they need to dovetail with yours or others. One of the reasons we have media alternatives is to air these type of differences of opinion.</p>
<p>What first prompted this article was not just the arrogance of those in Raleigh telling folks in Hatteras to &#8220;tough it out&#8221; and deal with the environmental movement. Not being defensive, but my article had no problem with locals determining our fate; it had to do with those who don&#8217;t reside here weighing in. That point has been missed by many.</p>
<p>Secondly, you moved here. So I ask, why did &#8220;YOU&#8221; move here, and why do you think you&#8217;re the last one? If you came here from outside, you were one extra person, one extra house, and one extra person utilizing one extra group of resources&#8230;water, roads, septic. Where did you draw the line? Should the native population somehow have prevented you from arriving? Because surely, if you thought the area a paradise, so did several thousand others. </p>
<p>And so you came. Many here call it the &#8220;close the bridge behind me&#8221; syndrome. As an observer, I sit and watch this everyday.</p>
<p>In 2009, I watched a prominent member of one local planning board rail on and on about big box stores at a public meeting. The following Monday, there she was in line at Wal-Mart in front of me, basket full of clothes for her grand kids.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve mentioned already, I&#8217;ve seen one, now two comments from readers saying I am wrong about this development. As I pointed out, one I saw in Home Depot, and now the other is one who posted, in public, on Facebook how much they enjoyed Captain George&#8217;s the first week they opened. If CG&#8217;s is not the epitome of huge, chain, frozen, corporate food, I&#8217;m at a loss for what is. Others who have commented here took jobs, making money working on mansions, soliciting government bids, etc. It&#8217;s a small town, and if there is one thing that puzzles me, it&#8217;s the contradictions that are apparent every day from those who decry development yet make their living from it. Ditto for those who decry runaway taxes yet bid for government jobs.  </p>
<p>Nowhere in this article did I say build a million homes, or a 100 story hotel, or build a million Wings. I said I like being able to buy a PC at Wal-Mart, some good food at Harris-Teeter (and yes, I miss Seamark terribly), or a webcam (which I bought Monday) at Staples. </p>
<p>But one more time, each person who moved here from elsewhere to enjoy the &#8220;undeveloped nature&#8221; of the area added to the eventual over development. The story is the same in Sanibel and most of Florida, Napa Valley, even the New Zealand coast. </p>
<p>If the vast majority of locals don&#8217;t want this much commercial development (and I am not speaking of rental homes), then they would boycott the stores. Instead, the chains are full of locals and the small businesses eventually close or adapt. Why is that? </p>
<p>My guess is that if I&#8217;ve &#8220;lost the readers on this one,&#8221; then the folks I see in line at Food Lion, dining at Outback, or hauling generators out of Home Depot who live here simply don&#8217;t read this web site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Colleen A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ, another great post. I think we townies may have been more OK/less uptight with the TJ Maxx because it&#039;s not so obvious. The only way you stumble upon it is if you are looking for it. I have to admit, I like the idea of having a little more convenience, and variety is one of the spices of life... I just don&#039;t want it to be smacked in the face with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ, another great post. I think we townies may have been more OK/less uptight with the TJ Maxx because it&#8217;s not so obvious. The only way you stumble upon it is if you are looking for it. I have to admit, I like the idea of having a little more convenience, and variety is one of the spices of life&#8230; I just don&#8217;t want it to be smacked in the face with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I just have to ask... WHY are YOU here? 

I like ekim&#039;s post above... a lot of us have settled, not made the salaries as other places, dealt with a few minor inconviences, dont miss the traffic, malls, the starbucks (and dont frequent the ones who have chosen to set up shop) ... why? because this place is so special. Pure heaven on earth, pure heaven which is being poisoned slowly by over developement, beach nourishment, higher taxes and greed. Greed is destroying it. Our little island is nothing like it was when I first came, and I loved it for what it was and never hoped to &quot;change it&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I just have to ask&#8230; WHY are YOU here? </p>
<p>I like ekim&#8217;s post above&#8230; a lot of us have settled, not made the salaries as other places, dealt with a few minor inconviences, dont miss the traffic, malls, the starbucks (and dont frequent the ones who have chosen to set up shop) &#8230; why? because this place is so special. Pure heaven on earth, pure heaven which is being poisoned slowly by over developement, beach nourishment, higher taxes and greed. Greed is destroying it. Our little island is nothing like it was when I first came, and I loved it for what it was and never hoped to &#8220;change it&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Russ Lay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ekim: Where in my article did I ask for another Myrtle Beach? My point was, and is, that people who live here deserve to set their own goals on where and what we offer our residents, not people in Raleigh. There is a balance between convenience and living like it was 1960 here.

Explain GREED to me? TJ Maxx opened in April, not during tourist season. The parking lot was maxed out (no pun) and you couldn&#039;t move in the place. Are you saying TJ Maxx is greedy, or are you saying the locals don&#039;t want to shop there? The winter lines at Food Lion, Harris Teeter, Walmart belie the idea of greed being the only motivator. Interestingly, one of the last times I saw one local critic who comments above was in, er, Home Depot walking out with a bunch of stuff he could have purchased at Kellogg&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ekim: Where in my article did I ask for another Myrtle Beach? My point was, and is, that people who live here deserve to set their own goals on where and what we offer our residents, not people in Raleigh. There is a balance between convenience and living like it was 1960 here.</p>
<p>Explain GREED to me? TJ Maxx opened in April, not during tourist season. The parking lot was maxed out (no pun) and you couldn&#8217;t move in the place. Are you saying TJ Maxx is greedy, or are you saying the locals don&#8217;t want to shop there? The winter lines at Food Lion, Harris Teeter, Walmart belie the idea of greed being the only motivator. Interestingly, one of the last times I saw one local critic who comments above was in, er, Home Depot walking out with a bunch of stuff he could have purchased at Kellogg&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by ekim</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/09/06/staying-in-character-the-outer-banks-time-warp/#comment-6833</link>
		<dc:creator>ekim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved here 30 yrs ago, I was a high walker makin 40 an hr, big money back then. I came like some to fish and hunt and hold my first marriage together. After a 2 week vacation, I sold everything except the car, guns and fishin poles and moved here within a month.  It was a small town with 2 lights.  What are we now? The marriage didn&#039;t last, the fishing and hunting aint what it use to be. PURE GREED IS KILLING THE LITTLE TOWN, PURE GREED!!!  THERE is no place like this on the whole east coast. I&#039;ve looked, so have friends. Its still a wonderful place for me to raise my family and children.  Lets stop killing the small town. Are you aspiring for the Outer Banks to be another Myrtle Beach?? 

RUSS whats up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved here 30 yrs ago, I was a high walker makin 40 an hr, big money back then. I came like some to fish and hunt and hold my first marriage together. After a 2 week vacation, I sold everything except the car, guns and fishin poles and moved here within a month.  It was a small town with 2 lights.  What are we now? The marriage didn&#8217;t last, the fishing and hunting aint what it use to be. PURE GREED IS KILLING THE LITTLE TOWN, PURE GREED!!!  THERE is no place like this on the whole east coast. I&#8217;ve looked, so have friends. Its still a wonderful place for me to raise my family and children.  Lets stop killing the small town. Are you aspiring for the Outer Banks to be another Myrtle Beach?? </p>
<p>RUSS whats up!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you lost the reader on this one, Russ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you lost the reader on this one, Russ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Bobby says it best, there&#039;s a new wave coming, with artificial beaches and tourism at all costs and big business being the key goal..!

So us old folks better just shut up and get out of the way.

Anyone who makes money off this place and then whines that the &quot;wrong type of other businesses&quot; is trying to do the same needs to be quiet. 

You opened the door, sorry if the wrong dog came home. Deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bobby says it best, there&#8217;s a new wave coming, with artificial beaches and tourism at all costs and big business being the key goal..!</p>
<p>So us old folks better just shut up and get out of the way.</p>
<p>Anyone who makes money off this place and then whines that the &#8220;wrong type of other businesses&#8221; is trying to do the same needs to be quiet. </p>
<p>You opened the door, sorry if the wrong dog came home. Deal with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Outer Banks time warp by Russ Lay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meaghan--well put. I suspect our limited population, constrained by geography, will keep many of the chains out...Panera included. And, I don&#039;t go to the Starbucks here as I prefer the three local chains better. Ditto on Home Depot; it&#039;s rare that I visit. 

Bill-I like the Manteo way, and I&#039;m working on something along those lines. As a preview, some towns in the area are able to maintain their &quot;look&quot; as their residents rely on the other towns to supply needs. Check out the Food Lion on Saturday at the Outer Banks Mall in Nags Head and you&#039;ll see a lot of Roanoke Island residents shopping there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meaghan&#8211;well put. I suspect our limited population, constrained by geography, will keep many of the chains out&#8230;Panera included. And, I don&#8217;t go to the Starbucks here as I prefer the three local chains better. Ditto on Home Depot; it&#8217;s rare that I visit. </p>
<p>Bill-I like the Manteo way, and I&#8217;m working on something along those lines. As a preview, some towns in the area are able to maintain their &#8220;look&#8221; as their residents rely on the other towns to supply needs. Check out the Food Lion on Saturday at the Outer Banks Mall in Nags Head and you&#8217;ll see a lot of Roanoke Island residents shopping there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where&#8217;s the scandal in Southern Shores? by Jack</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/08/24/wheres-the-scandal-in-southern-shores/#comment-6824</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to continue the statement that the &quot;Taxpayer&quot; wrote, the Chief of the Departments salary is not out of line.  I am not from the Outer Banks, but I do both work for a paid dept and am on a vol dept.  I see how much work and responsibility is involved in running a fire department.

The number of fires has nothing to do with it! In fact we do less fire than anything else about (10% fire 90% ems city paid dept, 20% fire 80% ems rural vol dept im on), unless you live in NYC or chicago and you can run strictly on fires.  Most of your run volume is EMS runs, rescue runs (Vehicle accidents, entrapments, search), alarm runs, then down on the list is fires.  The fire department of today is far more diverse than just putting out fires!

I do not know what else is going on in the FD, but be thankful you have a active department with good equipment and the funds to run it.  Where I live they are laying off FF, shutting down fire stations and departments are not able to provide the protection that is needed for the taxpayers/citizens.   If you have a good department, you are safer and your insurance costs less. 

Times are tough everywhere, believe me I know, but if you really think it was wrong to replace fire equipment to help keep you, your family and the fire fighters responding to an emergency safe or to pay someone to run a department to keep you and your family safe, then I will not be able to change your thinking. 

Please be safe out there!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to continue the statement that the &#8220;Taxpayer&#8221; wrote, the Chief of the Departments salary is not out of line.  I am not from the Outer Banks, but I do both work for a paid dept and am on a vol dept.  I see how much work and responsibility is involved in running a fire department.</p>
<p>The number of fires has nothing to do with it! In fact we do less fire than anything else about (10% fire 90% ems city paid dept, 20% fire 80% ems rural vol dept im on), unless you live in NYC or chicago and you can run strictly on fires.  Most of your run volume is EMS runs, rescue runs (Vehicle accidents, entrapments, search), alarm runs, then down on the list is fires.  The fire department of today is far more diverse than just putting out fires!</p>
<p>I do not know what else is going on in the FD, but be thankful you have a active department with good equipment and the funds to run it.  Where I live they are laying off FF, shutting down fire stations and departments are not able to provide the protection that is needed for the taxpayers/citizens.   If you have a good department, you are safer and your insurance costs less. </p>
<p>Times are tough everywhere, believe me I know, but if you really think it was wrong to replace fire equipment to help keep you, your family and the fire fighters responding to an emergency safe or to pay someone to run a department to keep you and your family safe, then I will not be able to change your thinking. </p>
<p>Please be safe out there!!</p>
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