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	<title>Comments on: Support weakens for Nags Head sand plan</title>
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		<title>By: Butch Stone</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Butch Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to.. I vote now

This is what YOU said..Why might people be turned off to the traditional Nags Head and go to Corolla? It might be that we have too many people in town now.

Look at the picture above!!
Doesn&#039;t this explain it all...
Is this what you want all of Nags Head to look like??
I think you want it to look like it, so less people will come here</description>
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<p>This is what YOU said..Why might people be turned off to the traditional Nags Head and go to Corolla? It might be that we have too many people in town now.</p>
<p>Look at the picture above!!<br />
Doesn&#8217;t this explain it all&#8230;<br />
Is this what you want all of Nags Head to look like??<br />
I think you want it to look like it, so less people will come here</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am tired of proponents of beach nourishment contending that if beach nourishment doesn&#039;t happen, the entire Nags Head oceanside tax base will be lost.  That&#039;s hogwash.  Also, as rental properties are lost, the law of supply and demand will dictate rising rates on the properties still here, so the tax base will be largely unchanged.  Lastly, developers will find a way to fill the void if demand doesn&#039;t equal supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tired of proponents of beach nourishment contending that if beach nourishment doesn&#8217;t happen, the entire Nags Head oceanside tax base will be lost.  That&#8217;s hogwash.  Also, as rental properties are lost, the law of supply and demand will dictate rising rates on the properties still here, so the tax base will be largely unchanged.  Lastly, developers will find a way to fill the void if demand doesn&#8217;t equal supply.</p>
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		<title>By: I vote</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>I vote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But 72 million is not at risk and that claim is not accurate. Only a tiny portion of that amount would be endangered over 20-30 years at the same erosion rate we have now.

And, we just opened all those condos (SEE STORY). Even if we lost those 30-year-old or more hotels, the town has a huge net gain already.

I don&#039;t think the goal should be &quot;AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN GET, LET&#039;S STACK AS MANY TOURISTS AS WE CAN ON THE BEACH!&quot; That&#039;s too close to pure greed. 

Why might people be turned off to the traditional Nags Head and go to Corolla? It might be that we have too many people in town now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But 72 million is not at risk and that claim is not accurate. Only a tiny portion of that amount would be endangered over 20-30 years at the same erosion rate we have now.</p>
<p>And, we just opened all those condos (SEE STORY). Even if we lost those 30-year-old or more hotels, the town has a huge net gain already.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the goal should be &#8220;AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN GET, LET&#8217;S STACK AS MANY TOURISTS AS WE CAN ON THE BEACH!&#8221; That&#8217;s too close to pure greed. </p>
<p>Why might people be turned off to the traditional Nags Head and go to Corolla? It might be that we have too many people in town now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob O</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1147</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 5 years, the Town of Nags Head and Dare County collect over $72,000,000 in property tax, occupancy tax and sales tax from the oceanfront and oceanside properties in Nags Head.  

If there is no nourishment program, homes, hotels, and roads and other infrastructure will continue to end up in the ocean or on the beach.  The legal process to remove private homes from the beach is lengthy, so homes sit on the beach for multiple years, protected by sandbags, with the beach shrinking between the water and the sandbags.  This process will not stop.  Eventually, say 20 or 30 years from now, much of the tax base will be gone, and only the road will remain if we do nothing.  

Dr. Kana was actually in town for a public meeting on Tuesday.  He clearly explained the reasoning on how much sand - it was based on historical data on the amount of sand lost over a ten year period.  

Now in 20 years, you might be retired and moved, or not, but the Town and the County need to think long-term.  Too often, government waits until the crisis is at our doorstep, then we spend more money on repair than we would have spent on prevention.  As the tax base goes into the ocean, it can&#039;t be replaced because of the CAMA setbacks.  If we continue to do nothing, it may be too late soon.  Look at the threatened tax base at Whalebone Junction - 4 major structures, sandbagged.  What do you think the value of the tax revenue from the Comfort Inn, Diamond Shoals, The Yachtsman and Bodie Island Beach Club totals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 5 years, the Town of Nags Head and Dare County collect over $72,000,000 in property tax, occupancy tax and sales tax from the oceanfront and oceanside properties in Nags Head.  </p>
<p>If there is no nourishment program, homes, hotels, and roads and other infrastructure will continue to end up in the ocean or on the beach.  The legal process to remove private homes from the beach is lengthy, so homes sit on the beach for multiple years, protected by sandbags, with the beach shrinking between the water and the sandbags.  This process will not stop.  Eventually, say 20 or 30 years from now, much of the tax base will be gone, and only the road will remain if we do nothing.  </p>
<p>Dr. Kana was actually in town for a public meeting on Tuesday.  He clearly explained the reasoning on how much sand &#8211; it was based on historical data on the amount of sand lost over a ten year period.  </p>
<p>Now in 20 years, you might be retired and moved, or not, but the Town and the County need to think long-term.  Too often, government waits until the crisis is at our doorstep, then we spend more money on repair than we would have spent on prevention.  As the tax base goes into the ocean, it can&#8217;t be replaced because of the CAMA setbacks.  If we continue to do nothing, it may be too late soon.  Look at the threatened tax base at Whalebone Junction &#8211; 4 major structures, sandbagged.  What do you think the value of the tax revenue from the Comfort Inn, Diamond Shoals, The Yachtsman and Bodie Island Beach Club totals?</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Kitzmuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Kitzmuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A terminal groin is NOT an option for any Dare County community. Even if the General Assembly allows them with stipulations, terminal groins will only be allowed at inlets, and Oregon Inlet is way too far away from South Nags Head to have any impact on erosion there. 

Has anyone at the County level asked Mr. Kana - whose company, by the way, is the only entity benefiting from this whole debacle - what the County stands to get in return for spending $20 million on beach nourishment? 

Add up the occupancy and property tax that might not exist in the absence of beach nourishment - or that might not exist even with a $20 million beach nourishment project - and see if it totals $20 million. 

Oh, and be sure to consider ONLY those properties that may actually benefit from beach nourishment (not every property east of the beach road).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A terminal groin is NOT an option for any Dare County community. Even if the General Assembly allows them with stipulations, terminal groins will only be allowed at inlets, and Oregon Inlet is way too far away from South Nags Head to have any impact on erosion there. </p>
<p>Has anyone at the County level asked Mr. Kana &#8211; whose company, by the way, is the only entity benefiting from this whole debacle &#8211; what the County stands to get in return for spending $20 million on beach nourishment? </p>
<p>Add up the occupancy and property tax that might not exist in the absence of beach nourishment &#8211; or that might not exist even with a $20 million beach nourishment project &#8211; and see if it totals $20 million. </p>
<p>Oh, and be sure to consider ONLY those properties that may actually benefit from beach nourishment (not every property east of the beach road).</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Dooley</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Dooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 02:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The C of C&#039;s &quot;No beaches, no business&quot; is a stunningly dumb example of a false choice. Look at either side of that equation, and apply a reality principle. Who is proposing there be &quot;no&quot; beaches? Nobody. Who believes that every enterprise in Dare County will close? Nobody.

Please, fellow citizens, do not fall for this false dilemma. The ocean wants there to be a beach. For proof, look at what has happened to the beach in Kitty Hawk where Isabelle wiped out a string of sand-bagged cottages. Where there was not even room to walk dry-shod in front of the cottages, there is a broad, active, natural beach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The C of C&#8217;s &#8220;No beaches, no business&#8221; is a stunningly dumb example of a false choice. Look at either side of that equation, and apply a reality principle. Who is proposing there be &#8220;no&#8221; beaches? Nobody. Who believes that every enterprise in Dare County will close? Nobody.</p>
<p>Please, fellow citizens, do not fall for this false dilemma. The ocean wants there to be a beach. For proof, look at what has happened to the beach in Kitty Hawk where Isabelle wiped out a string of sand-bagged cottages. Where there was not even room to walk dry-shod in front of the cottages, there is a broad, active, natural beach.</p>
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		<title>By: RDS</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>RDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the elected members of the Southern Shores, Kitty Hawk, and Kill Devil Hills Town Councils for asking the tough questions about this plan!

We have time to think this through. There&#039;s no need for a rubber stamp from the county chair. Way to go, thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the elected members of the Southern Shores, Kitty Hawk, and Kill Devil Hills Town Councils for asking the tough questions about this plan!</p>
<p>We have time to think this through. There&#8217;s no need for a rubber stamp from the county chair. Way to go, thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Butch Stone</title>
		<link>http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/04/07/opposition-mounts-against-occupancy-tax-for-sand/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>Butch Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people will still come to the Outer Banks even if there is,  one penny more renters tax..

But they wont come here, if there IS NO BEACH!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people will still come to the Outer Banks even if there is,  one penny more renters tax..</p>
<p>But they wont come here, if there IS NO BEACH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a most informative article. I am sorry I missed that meeting. It must have been a &quot;lulu&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a most informative article. I am sorry I missed that meeting. It must have been a &#8220;lulu&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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