Comments on: Rebuilding the beach: What’s next? http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/ Outer Banks news, discussion and opinion, OBX news, Duck, Southern Shores, Kitty Hawk, Kill Devil Hills, Nags Head, Manteo, Hatteras Island news. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:06:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mike http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-717 Mike Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:21:00 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-717 "Joe says: They had their time, and then lost the bet." I don't think they lost at all. Averaging 5k per rental week, 12 weeks, 40 years, those homes made their owners a gross of perhaps $2.4 million dollars. At what they cost at the time to build? They probably paid off about 2000 percent or better. The bottom line is if Oakes and his clan had tried to do this quietly with their own money, they could have pulled it off. Now so many people are so angry at Nags Head for being such a greedy neighbor, it'll never happen. “Joe says: They had their time, and then lost the bet.”

I don’t think they lost at all.

Averaging 5k per rental week, 12 weeks, 40 years, those homes made their owners a gross of perhaps $2.4 million dollars.

At what they cost at the time to build? They probably paid off about 2000 percent or better.

The bottom line is if Oakes and his clan had tried to do this quietly with their own money, they could have pulled it off. Now so many people are so angry at Nags Head for being such a greedy neighbor, it’ll never happen.

]]> By: Tim http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-716 Tim Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:31:49 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-716 If we are going to just let all of the oceanfront homes wash into the ocean, the oceanfront homes will have no tax value. And allowing the beach to just wash the homes in means we will have a poor beach with many services to pay for and tons of debris on the beach. Lets get real and have some forethought and solve some problems. If we are going to just let all of the oceanfront homes wash into the ocean, the oceanfront homes will have no tax value. And allowing the beach to just wash the homes in means we will have a poor beach with many services to pay for and tons of debris on the beach. Lets get real and have some forethought and solve some problems.

]]> By: Joe http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-710 Joe Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:13:48 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-710 The beach will take care of itself, if left alone. The natural beach will continue to draw tourists. When the front row of homes is gone, there will be a new front row, whose value and property taxes will reflect the new reality. The previous front took a gamble by buying in a known geologically unstable area. They had their time, and then lost the bet. We should not be bailing them out for their lost wagers. When do we get real and look at the long-term expense viability of trying to hold a line in the sand? The beach will take care of itself, if left alone. The natural beach will continue to draw tourists. When the front row of homes is gone, there will be a new front row, whose value and property taxes will reflect the new reality. The previous front took a gamble by buying in a known geologically unstable area. They had their time, and then lost the bet. We should not be bailing them out for their lost wagers.

When do we get real and look at the long-term expense viability of trying to hold a line in the sand?

]]> By: Butch Stone http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-693 Butch Stone Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:01:55 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-693 To Mary Nags Head is trying to "beautify" the city. It's called Beach Nourishment!!!!! To Mary
Nags Head is trying to “beautify” the city. It’s called Beach Nourishment!!!!!

]]> By: Mary http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-660 Mary Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:07:27 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-660 Nags Head just launched a contest to "beautify" the city by painting garbage cans. Ummm, perhaps they should focus their energies on cleaning up the beaches of condemned houses? Nags Head just launched a contest to “beautify” the city by painting garbage cans. Ummm, perhaps they should focus their energies on cleaning up the beaches of condemned houses?

]]> By: Katie http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-619 Katie Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:54:28 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-619 When potential visitors hear about exposed septic tanks on "Nags Head" beaches, it affects tourism for all Dare county beaches. Clean up the mess first, then figure out the best way to preserve the beach. First impressions are lasting ones, and you can be sure new visitors won't be returning if they've seen the condition of South Nags Head. When potential visitors hear about exposed septic tanks on “Nags Head” beaches, it affects tourism for all Dare county beaches. Clean up the mess first, then figure out the best way to preserve the beach. First impressions are lasting ones, and you can be sure new visitors won’t be returning if they’ve seen the condition of South Nags Head.

]]> By: Brian Grffith http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-593 Brian Grffith Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:35:58 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-593 Nourishment does not protect or preserve beaches. It's only done to protect and preserve what's behind the beach. But why would we want to protect/preserve what's behind the beach when that's why we're in this dilemma in the first place? If threatened/vulnerable/damaged/condemned oceanfront structures were removed (either through relocation or removal) when their "time came" (which I know is a subjective term), what would it do to the local economy? Absolutely nothing! What would it do to tourism? Probably nothing as well . . . although I bet there's a good argument that getting all that junk off the beach would have a positive impact. The only potential losers in a retreat scenario are a handful of oceanfront property owners who willingly made a very risky investment. Does the government help you when your 401(k) loses money, even though the entire U.S, economy would benefit from you having more money to spend? Of course it doesn't. So why should Nags Head, or Dare County, help those whose risky investments are now in jeopardy? The bottom line isn't that oceanfront property needs to be protected. It's the quality of the beach that matters, and if there's another - and better - way to have a quality beach shouldn't that, at least, be considered? Nourishment does not protect or preserve beaches. It’s only done to protect and preserve what’s behind the beach. But why would we want to protect/preserve what’s behind the beach when that’s why we’re in this dilemma in the first place?

If threatened/vulnerable/damaged/condemned oceanfront structures were removed (either through relocation or removal) when their “time came” (which I know is a subjective term), what would it do to the local economy? Absolutely nothing! What would it do to tourism? Probably nothing as well . . . although I bet there’s a good argument that getting all that junk off the beach would have a positive impact.

The only potential losers in a retreat scenario are a handful of oceanfront property owners who willingly made a very risky investment. Does the government help you when your 401(k) loses money, even though the entire U.S, economy would benefit from you having more money to spend? Of course it doesn’t. So why should Nags Head, or Dare County, help those whose risky investments are now in jeopardy?

The bottom line isn’t that oceanfront property needs to be protected. It’s the quality of the beach that matters, and if there’s another – and better – way to have a quality beach shouldn’t that, at least, be considered?

]]> By: gws http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-581 gws Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:52:47 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-581 This argument that the whole coastline is in a state of emergency is getting old. It's not. Take a look from Duck to Hatteras. This argument that the whole coastline is in a state of emergency is getting old. It’s not.

Take a look from Duck to Hatteras.

]]> By: Tim http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-579 Tim Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:08:56 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-579 Take a look from Duck to Hatteras. Take a look from Duck to Hatteras.

]]> By: gws http://outerbanksvoice.com/2010/02/01/rebuilding-the-beach-whats-next/#comment-577 gws Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:20:00 +0000 http://outerbanksvoice.com/?p=2981#comment-577 1000's? I think that's overstating it a bit. OK, a lot. OF houses will slowly become exposed to the ocean as they always have. We have time to fall back and build dunes and be smart about the way we spend valuable resources. 1000′s? I think that’s overstating it a bit. OK, a lot.

OF houses will slowly become exposed to the ocean as they always have.

We have time to fall back and build dunes and be smart about the way we spend valuable resources.

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